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PostSubject: Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol   Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol Icon_minitimeThu Oct 26, 2017 2:13 pm

Visiting Rodney who has now moved to Somerset I had thoughts of visiting Wells a few miles away to have a walk around the Palace down there. The whole thing turned out to be a surprise as Rodney wanted to show us Glastonbury on the Sunday which sort of turned into a Dan Brown hunt the Holy Grail.

We visited Glastonbury Abbey and not taken much notice of the King Arthur myths in the past  it became quite interesting walking around with a guide.

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The Abbey when first  built had pilgrims visiting and they were only let in to repent if they offered, money, Jewellery or land.

Then the original Abbey burned down and rebuilding it in the 1100's was quite slow with getting funds.

From reading articles, to get people coming in with money the monks first said they had found St Patrick's body in the grounds but people did not believe it, as most were aware he died in Ireland.

Six years later, one of the abbey's monks last dying wish was to be buried in a plot near what is now the Lady's chapel.

In 1191 on digging down 5 feet they came across a large stone slab and underneath was a metal cross with the inscription 'here lies the body of Arthur and his Lady Guinevere King of the isle of Avalon'. Sixteen feet down was the body of a huge man and a lady with golden hair in a hollowed out log.

This is a replica of the cross found that would have been a foot long

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Now Arthur was said to have fought many battles for Wales and said to have lived in the era of 500-600 AD and little is known or written about Britain after the Roman's had left.

Some experts have said it could have been a way of making the Abbey popular as more pilgrims would make the effort to go there.

However, some others say at that time the monks made no attempt to make the story go worldwide which would have been the obvious thing to do but to me certain things do not add up.

Anyway, one would have to wonder what remains of a log would have been there after 500-600 years.

In 1278 Edward 1 came and saw the inscribed cross and he and his queen witnessed the bodies being placed in a marble tomb in the abbey itself with the cross underneath.

For then on the Abbey became the second richest place behind Westminister and remained that way until Henry viii took it over in 1536.

The Abbot and two monks refused to comply and they were executed all suffering a horrible death for treason on Glastonbury Mount.

Henry v111 had the Abbey stripped of wealth stripping the roof and valuables. Arthur's tomb disappeared but there is said to be just a piece of the remains of it in the Abbey museum which dates correctly.

This is the spot where the tomb was placed in the Abbey

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The cross which was said to be a foot long has been witnessed by several people and the last record of it was by a poet who saw it in the hands of the Hughes the Chancellor of Wells in the 1600's who lived at the treasury in Vicar's Close lol and the cross disappeared after that.

I turned up there the day before lol

Isles of Avalon was mentioned on the inscription of the cross and people believe that the Glastonbury Mount in view of the Abbey was said to have been an island in the 500's as Somerset was flooded.

This is where the Holy Grail is said to be. The Mount (St Micheal mount) has had some investigation and it has been used by tribes for centuries before. I understand there are Labyrinths underneath which have been sealed but nothing of Arthur has been discovered.

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Some believed the Myth that Arthur would return and finding the body in 1191 it was said to be Henry II's favour because having witnessed the body he could control the people. However, Henry died two years before the date Arthur was discovered so another anomaly with that theory.

The Holy Gail is a second Myth

Jesus's uncle the person who moved Christ's body after death was said to have brought the Holy Grail back to England and beneath the tor is a well that the Holy Grail was said to have been  thrown down. The river beneath the well runs red from iron ore but people believed this was the blood of Christ.

The whole town of Glastonbury is like living in another world with fortune tellers, tardot and peace shops none of them would survive in another town

A new kid on the block has found readings in the Oxford Library and believes Arthur is buried at Baschurch Shropshire and is waiting permission to dig on the site. He said it is a pity both the cross and the bodies have disappeared as modern technology could have proved the myth wrong or right. Where is the cross ? seen by a number of people and why has it disappeared in the Chancellor's hands

If the Myth of Arthur is a hoax then the Abbey have told lies to make money. It started to rain so the attempt to walk to the Mount was called off but the fascination has got me on the hunt lol


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PostSubject: Re: Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol   Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol Icon_minitimeThu Oct 26, 2017 6:42 pm

Nice pics and history lesson clap

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I thought that this was a Monty Python thread at first. hitting himself

Enjoyed the history lesson so repped. clap

Did you see Michael Eavis at all Del? wink

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lol yes it was a bit like Monty Python with a poor guy from a group of people having to dress up as a monk in the tour and he was the spit and image of Richard Wilson and looked just as miserable having been told to dress up for it
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Haha, I don't believe it lol.

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It was even funnier on the Saturday when I wanted a pic of the oldest medieval street in the country. This is the street the said Arthur's cross disappeared in the 1600's but at this time did not have a clue about it lol

I sat there in the street for 30mins with camera and tripod for it to clear of people whilst Rodney, his lady and Mrs Db waited in the wings.

One couple walked at snails pace stopping to look at each house in the end i took a picture which was nothing special but they went right to the end and then took just as long to walk back.

Now I got the perfect picture later and this next week is the first league competition. Anyway, I check up on the judge and found he was the same judge that marked my water picture down and put me out of the league. So did not want to waste it on this next week in case he did not like it.

However, I had noticed I had a really special image cropping and changing the picture with the couple in it. So that will be my entry the software is so good I will show you the before and after. Also I had an idea for the theme of red and have layered the same pic over the other with one coloured red cutting part out of one to reveal red.

This is so unique it is going to go either way but probably sink like a stone lol. I do have a standard back up in the same category to recover me should it go down the swanny lol
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PostSubject: Re: Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol   Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol Icon_minitimeThu Oct 26, 2017 9:39 pm

lol! lol! lol!

I was just thinking before logging on that I hadn't seen a camera club update this week Very Happy

An enjoyable little read up mate. I've never been yet it's probably only 100 miles from me. I like a walk round old ruins and a bit of a history read up.

Is that a real stag in the top post, view of the mount?
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no the stag is a sculpture Mark.

Camera club the last couple of weeks has not been my cup of tea previous week was on how to make use of a mobile phone as they now take 49% of all pictures and have apps for different uses. My pay as you go is rubbish so not really interested but they are now adding lens to the smart phones to make good pictures.

This week we were taking shots of bananas etc under lighting we only had 4 mins on 3 different items so it was a social chat meeting for most of the time.

This next Tuesday is the real thing as far as I am concerned and will be a pointer to whether i can get some improvement from some new pictures but the themes are hard to visualise and take. I have the next one lined up for 'chaos' but it depends on whether the judge can see it in mine
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Send the judge on MF for 15 mins if he wants chaos lol! lol! lol!
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Mark wrote:
Send the judge on MF for 15 mins if he wants chaos lol! lol! lol!

I doubt it would take that long Mark. wink

lolol lolol lolol lolol

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lol! lol! lol! lol!

I have spent hours learning different things to do on the software to make improvements
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Cracking software for your phone, I still use my motorola its the best phone I have ever had and I get great results with this software. Hardly carry a camera these days. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en_GB

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PostSubject: Re: Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol   Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol Icon_minitimeFri Oct 27, 2017 9:03 am

Nice one Del Boy.

We went down to Somerset a few years ago and stayed in a little place called Shipham, we really enjoyed it.

I have a good story about some scrumpy I bought along Chedder Gorge.......
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chelsearo wrote:
Nice one Del Boy.

We went down to Somerset a few years ago and stayed in a little place called Shipham, we really enjoyed it.

I have a good story about some scrumpy I bought along Chedder Gorge.......

Come on then Ro, we want to hear all about the scrumpy. drunken morebeer beer drinker

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PostSubject: Re: Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol   Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol Icon_minitimeMon Oct 30, 2017 11:24 am

OK then Mick!

So, i bought a big plastic holder of Scrumpy whilst we were at Chedder Gorge, the lady in the shop advised me to decant the scrumpy into a glass bottle, wow I thought how volatile is this stuff!

Anyway she said to do it within 6 months, 6 months I said, this bad boy is not gonna last six hours!

We got back to the guest house and Sarah had a little snooze. I proceeded to drink the whole lot!!

At dinner I was so p$ssed I could hardly hold my cutlery!!!

It absolutly blew me away!!

My wife was NOT impressed!
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lol! lol! lol! lol!

So the chelsearo container it went into was not as strong as the suggested glass bottle


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correct Del!
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Whoops an upset Mrs. CR, you live life on the edge Ro lol. Repped great little story mate.

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ohhhhhhhh the Chedder Gorge they say its a great drive through, I looked it up when I saw it on tv, a place I plan to visit one day

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Daryn wrote:
ohhhhhhhh the Chedder Gorge they say its a great drive through, I looked it up when I saw it on tv, a place I plan to visit one day

I didn't think you liked cheese as well as vine tomatos Daryn? wink

lolol lolol lolol lolol

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ohhhhhhhhhh yes I often go to cheese and lager nights Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol   Arthur and the Holy Grail investigated lol Icon_minitimeWed Nov 01, 2017 2:47 pm

we stayed near Wookey Hole which we last visited 50 years ago, then it was a cave with a guide and took about 30- 45 mins to see, although the cave goes down under water loads of places there have not been discovered yet but divers go down regularly .

Originally at the caves they use to start a tour once there were about 20 people ready. The story was that a wicked witch who lived in the cave had put a curse over the surrounding land and crops stopping them from growing. The cave was in silence as the guide told the story of a monk being given the task of getting the spell reversed. The witch saw the monk entering the cave and ran down deep into the cave.

The monk then chased the witch holding his candle in his hand.

Then my mate went whoooooooooooooo, the guide said thank you for that and I just curled up laughing and just could not stop. It was one of those moment like in school when somebody at the back of the class had cracked a joke and because it was so funny one had to raise the desk top to hid the laughing which then just got worse.

There is a formation of a witches face in the rock which is lit up

Today the whole place has turned into a theme park with dinosaurs, pirate land etc etc
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Del, we went there too, wasnt a theme park there then.

I seem to remember a papermill next to it?
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as is now violin

http://www.wookey.co.uk/
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